Yunan Chen on getting tenure, the two-body experience & negotiating motherhood
Yunan Chen is an associate professor in the Department of Informatics at the Donald Bren School of Information and Computer Sciences (ICS), and the Institute for Clinical and Translational Science (ICTS) at the University of California, Irvine. Yunan shares her experiences moving from a medical degree in China to a PhD at the intersection of medical informatics and human computer interaction in the US. She also speaks out about her tenure experiences, being part of a long distance relationship, and the struggles negotiating academia and becoming a new mother.
“We don’t talk about our stress publicly.” “Give yourself a break after the baby.” “It’s ok to be lost [after getting tenure]”
She talks about (times approximate) …
01:35 Moving from medical school in China to a PhD in the US
09:00 Applying for faculty positions, getting applications rejected, moving to Irvine
12:41 Challenges being a new faculty member, learning paper and grant writing
17:20 Having great mentors
19:30 Having a baby, learning about life beyond work
21:10 Having a long distance relationship with a partner who is also an academic, working hard
22:10 No longer being able to count on evenings/weekends for working
24:00 Having a baby puts in a boundary on time, and using time more wisely
25:30 The first year with the baby, after tenure
27:08 Making the mistake of thinking it was still possible to be on a Program Committee, “if others can do it, maybe I can … but it turns out to be very difficult” … “First time I realised my life is forever different” … “My time is not as flexible as before”
30:20 Posting to Facebook that she “just feel very tired doing this”, one lesson, “I didn’t have to do it”; Her advice “give yourself a break” and “no-one talks about the challenges”
33:00 Trying to build a work-life balance and family life little by little, and moving to a bigger house and lowering expectations lower (ok if home not perfect, a bit messy) to achieve a better and happier life
38:48 Experiences of a mother support group, struggling with being a good mum and being a good researcher and quitting the support group, and stopping feeling guilty
41:38 Final thoughts: talk to a lot of people, we don’t talk about our stress publicly, don’t be afraid of approaching others, don’t be too harsh on yourself, things get easier
43:58 Being on academic mamas Facebook group and learning from other people’s experiences
48:00 Being lost after having a baby and after getting tenure, and finding what to do next, but it’s ok to be lost
51:45 End
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