Revisiting Irina part 2

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Welcome to Changing Academic Life.

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I'm Geraldine Fitzpatrick, and this is

a podcast series where academics and

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others share their stories, provide

ideas, and provoke discussions about what

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we can do individually and collectively

to change academic life for the better.

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Welcome back to this

another short episode.

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And my main intention today is to

encourage you to go back to part two of

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my conversation with Irina Shklovski.

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I'm grateful to Christiana Grünloh

who pointed out to me that the

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audio that was, uh, posted.

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For Irina's part two was really choppy.

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And the reason for this is that, uh, I'm.

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Using a new tool that is really

great at removing background noise.

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And it was the reason why, you

weren't hearing music for some

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of the episodes because it

interpreted the music in the intro.

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Outro as background noise.

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I think I've worked out how

to work around that one.

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And now I'm finding out that, it also.

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can mistake, parts of audio,

speech for background noise and

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removes that hence the choppiness

of the audio that was released.

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For part two.

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So I've now removed, uh, the

processing of the audio via that tool.

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The trade off is that the audio that

is available is a little bit echo-y

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because we recorded it in person in

a room with a lot of hard surfaces,

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but at least you're not losing words.

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And I want to use this week's

episode to redirect you back

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to what Irina had to say.

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Because I think it was just

so critically important.

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She talked about her experiences coming

back from burnout and the lessons

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that she's learning in an ongoing way

about how to be enough and do enough.

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And it's just so.

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Wonderful and honest and.

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So many valuable lessons for us

all and reminders for us all.

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That I hate you to miss out on it

because of my technical errors.

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So please.

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Um, encourage you to go

back and listen to it.

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And just to give a little bit of a teaser.

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I'll end here with a snippet from

that conversation with Irina.

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Irina: The ability is at a certain

point, you actually have to learn how

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to reflect and be like, Is that okay?

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And at first it takes a long

time to figure that out.

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And then it's less.

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Because you've gained the skill.

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Reflection is also a skill.

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And we're super reflective,

but reflecting on ourselves is

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a completely different skill.

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Which is funny.

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You would never expect that.

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You would think a scholar that's done

deep qualitative work and quantitative

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work and have written things about all

kinds of stuff would know how to reflect.

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And then thinking about your own

life, you just realize that it's

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a completely different skill.

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And you still have to learn about that.

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But somehow, because it's just

you, it doesn't seem like you

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never ever have enough time for it.

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[But it's okay to prioritize you].

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It turns out if you prioritize

you, at least occasionally,

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everybody else benefits too.

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Geri: Yeah.

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I think that's a really

key point, isn't it?

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Irina: And it turns out if you

don't prioritize you, eventually

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everybody loses because you break.

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[Yeah.

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So that's more selfish in a way].

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Yeah.

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It is.

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Because for a while before you break,

you are going to be producing things that

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are never going to be your best work.

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And you're never going to be like,

that was really good, because I

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could have done better, but my head

didn't really have a brain then.

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And that's worse.

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Geri: And that's the end of the teaser.

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So please do go back

and listen to part two.

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I'm really grateful to arena for her

vulnerability and her honesty and

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sharing so much of her experiences.

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You will find a link to her conversation

in the show notes in this episode.

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