Remembering Volkmar Pipek - on being curious, being you
Volkmar Pipek was a highly influential researcher from Uni of Siegen who sadly passed away in Jan 2024 after a long illness. This short episode draws from a written interview he gave to Mateusz Dolata on the occasion of his 2023 EUSSET-ISSI Lifetime Achievement Award. I read an extract where he shares his advice about becoming and being a researcher: Be curious. Be who you are. Be curious who you are. Wise advice for all of us.
Read the full interview with Volkmar Pipek
Interview conducted by Mateusz Dolata, University of Zurich
Text accompanying the EUSSET-ISSI Lifetime Achievement Award 2023 to Volkmar Pipek
EUSSET: European Society for Socially Embedded Technologies
ISSI: Institute for Social Informatics
Volkmar Pipek, University of Siegen and Volkmar’s publications
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Transcript
Welcome to Changing Academic Life.
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:I'm Geraldine Fitzpatrick and this is
a podcast series where academics and
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:others share their stories, provide
ideas and provoke discussions about what
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:we can do individually and collectively
to change academic life for the better.
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:Sometimes in the midst of all our
busy-ness and deadlines our pressures
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:to perform and advance our careers.
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:We can forget that life
is actually really short.
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:And really precious.
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:And we can lose perspective about
our work and what's really important.
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:The passing of a very dear colleague
th of January,:
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:Was a stark reminder of this for me.
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:Volkmar died after a long
illness at the age of 56.
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:Before he died.
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:He was asked for advice to younger
colleagues and to researchers in general.
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:And he summed these up as be curious.
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:Be who you are.
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:And be curious who you are.
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:Wise advice from Volkmar that he
offered as part of an interview that
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:was conducted on the occasion of his
being awarded the EUSSET and ISSI
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:lifetime achievement award in 2023.
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:EUSSET is the European society for
socially embedded technologies and ISSI
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:is the Institute for socio informatics.
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:To mark this award Mateusz Dolata
from the university of Zurich
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:and with his hat as website and
social media person for EUSSET.
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:Conducted an interview with On
his perspectives of CSCW, which is
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:computer supported cooperative work
and research in general, including
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:his advice for younger researchers.
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:To quote from the EUSSET web page.
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:Posted by Mateusz.
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:The interview was published post hum.
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:Following the sad passing
of Volkmar in January,:
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:Before that he'd provided us with
the initial draft of the interview.
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:After much deliberation, we decided to
share Volkmar's, insightful thoughts
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:with the broader community in this form.
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:End of quote.
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:In this short episode, I'd like to share
an extract from Volkmar's interview.
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:That specifically focuses on his advice.
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:I share this with the permission
of Mateusz and of the head
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:of the awards committee.
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:As full disclosure.
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:I was also a member of
this awards committee.
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:First a little background on Volkmar.
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:He was a faculty member in
computer supported cooperative
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:work and social media, at the
university of Siegen in Germany.
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:And his award was for his pioneering
work in the field of socio informatics.
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:This work was uniquely driven and shaped
by his strongly held values around
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:societal emancipation and democratization.
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:And you can read more about this and his
many specific intellectual and empirical
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:contributions in the statement about
his award and in the full interview.
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:And I'll put links to both of
these on the episode, webpage.
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:I've also known Volkmar for some
decades as a fellow colleague and
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:researcher in the CSCW community.
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:And always loved meeting up and chatting
with him, not just about his research.
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:But just about the many ways that
his values played out in his life
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:and the choices that he made.
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:For example, in the interview,
you'll be able to read about his
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:experience in starting a commune
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:now to the extract from
the full interview.
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:And it starts with the question posed
by Mateusz on behalf of EUSSET and
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:then follows with Volkmar's answers.
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:Begin quote.
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:EUSSET remains a very young organization.
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:One-third of active use set
members of PhD students.
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:And there are equally many young
members working as postdocs
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:or assistant professors.
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:Many of the members are looking up to
you as an eminent authority, seeking an
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:advice concerning research, focus, career
paths, or simply becoming a researcher.
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:What would be your message to them?
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:And Volkmar's response.
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:Be curious.
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:Be who you are.
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:Be curious who you are.
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:First be curious.
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:For being a good researcher,
you need to take a deep interest
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:into the world as it is.
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:How it became like that.
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:And where it's heading.
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:With deep.
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:I mean, that, it's important to
also acknowledge those aspects
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:that are not in line with your
own convictions and experiences.
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:As a young PhD researcher who took pride
in his participatory design attitude.
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:I had to present the project.
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:I was working into the worker
representative counsel of one of the
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:largest German, private health insurance
companies in order to get their
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:approval and ideally their support.
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:I rarely spoke to a less interested crowd
in my life and got a very board approval.
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:I left the meeting with the impression
those worker representatives
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:were just not doing their job.
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:But I picked that experience up and
tried to find out how that could
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:be given that they volunteered
for the job and had been elected.
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:That spark of interest helped
me finding out how difficult it
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:actually is for practitioners.
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:To imagine how their work would change.
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:Given there are new software tools or
information infrastructures available.
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:And given that impact
is so hard to imagine.
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:Why should they not instead turn their
attention to much more obvious topics.
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:Second.
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:Be who you are.
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:With a bachelor's thesis and
maybe also with a master's thesis.
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:You may be able to regard those
as tasks that have to get executed
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:in order to earn your certificate.
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:And their exact topics and results
may never matter to you or to
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:anybody in your future career.
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:If you pursue a PhD with that attitude.
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:It will be even more painful
and exhausting as it is anyway.
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:If you stick with the topic for
three to five years, it will
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:become a huge part of your life.
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:And research suddenly becomes a very
personal, even intimate endeavor.
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:It does not make sense to
undertake this endeavor.
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:Just because there is funding
and a supervisor who finds
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:you somewhat interesting.
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:The topic, the methodology, the
scientific community report to.
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:They all should fit your interests,
beliefs, experiences, and personality.
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:In the final years of my master's
studies, I developed the idea that I
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:could be a researcher in computer science.
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:I had specialized on artificial
intelligence and even visited
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:some national conferences.
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:Due to a private contact.
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:I stumbled across the book,
informatic and Gesellschaft, which
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:is computer science and society.
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:Co-authored by Thomas Herman, also
a member of the CSCW community.
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:Which gave me for the first time,
the impression that there could
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:be the option to pursue my general
interest into improving society.
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:Also as a researcher in CS.
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:I started out working for the DFK
I that German national research
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:center for artificial intelligence.
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:But then decided to change
to the university of Bonn.
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:Although I'd been offered a
contract for only 10 months there.
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:Although I had literally no clue
about the competences requested,
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:which was CSCW and usability and
showed that in my job interview.
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:Although all exclamation mark of
my future colleagues, therefore
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:voted for another candidate.
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:And although their boss
hired me, nevertheless, just
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:based on my knowledge in AI.
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:Not because I would particularly
fit the advertisement position.
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:I did so.
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:Just because former colleagues
of that group had shown an
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:interest in electronic democracy.
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:And I really wanted to learn to
work with users because that did
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:fit my interest profile better.
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:That was more who I was.
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:Third.
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:Be curious who you are.
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:A PhD is usually located at a time
in your life when you've placed the
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:first cornerstones of your life.
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:You decided to finish an education
that would hopefully feed you
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:for the rest of your life.
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:You may have, or have had a
first long-term relationship.
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:You may have moved and settled
in a new town for the first time.
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:But things are still in motion.
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:Life in general.
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:And a PhD process for sure
will provide you with many new
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:experiences and challenges that
have the potential to change you.
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:That's okay.
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:So don't stick too strongly
to your concerns and beliefs.
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:Go with the flow and trust,
rather your skills of improvisers
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:station, then your fear of change.
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:That particularly applies to
your research topics and career.
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:Before I submitted my PhD on
supporting appropriation work.
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:I've been offered, interested in
PhD topics, including privacy in
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:group work group, where there was
unpublished research available
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:that I could have built upon.
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:Also in metadata structures
for environmental informatics.
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:And project money available for that.
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:And inductive logic programming.
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:And approach that would have allowed me
to continue with AI, with applications
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:in CSCW my own idea, but really far out.
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:The final topic appropriation.
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:Only emerged in my third year as a PhD.
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:And it took me three more
years to complete it.
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:Not only to technically write it.
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:But also in terms of re-interpreting
my research experiences so that they
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:would form a whole in the dissertation.
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:Well, I did not expect to be able
to combine my social political
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:and technological interests.
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:When I started my research career.
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:I grew more and more confident
of myself to be able to do that.
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:End of quoted extract.
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:Thank you Volkmar there's so
much wisdom and insight here.
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:From the perspective of.
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:Distance.
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:Be curious.
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:Be who you are.
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:Be curious who you are.
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:And I, I loved that statement as part of
the third, be curious who you are about.
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:Go with the flow and trust, rather
your skills of improvisation
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:than your fear of change.
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:I encourage you to go and read the
whole interview that Volkmar shared.
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:I'm sure you'll love it.
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:And it just provides such great
food for thought about, again,
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:an example of a career path that
hasn't been straightforward and the
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:work that's involved and the reward
that's attached with shaping career
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:decisions, research decisions, life
decisions in line with what you really
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:care about and with your values.
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:And the difference we
can make in doing that.
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:So again, thank you.
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:Volkmar.
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:And thank you.
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:Mateusz for the interview and for
allowing us to share it here.
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:And we'll finish with Volkmar's
final thought, from the interview,
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:which locates our research endeavors
as part of a scholarly community.
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:That's caring and inclusive.
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:To start quoting from Volkmar
directly and I'll leave out some
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:of the specific names he mentioned
just to keep it more general.
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:But you can read this in
the interview itself.
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:So Volkmar says.
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:And as a final thought, I cannot
express enough gratitude for the
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:general kindness and the respect I
experienced in this scientific community.
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:As a young researcher, I
joined the community based on
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:a certain political enthusiasm.
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:Not based on a sound
education and much knowledge.
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:Yet my colleagues accepted their
bosses decision to hire me.
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:And took on the effort to
introduce me to the field.
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:In the first years of my career, I've
been introduced to important scholars.
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:Not based on my own scientific
merits, but based on a general
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:culture of inclusiveness and
respect of this community.
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:Aside from providing a nice feeling and
interesting discussion opportunities.
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:It also shows in the
formal scientific process.
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:The way, how respectfully reviews
are being written and how easy it
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:is to access, reviewing committees.
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:That's an asset.
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:We can be proud of.
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:And what we should cultivate.
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:End of quote.
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:And in honour of Volkmar.
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:May we all play our own part in showing
kindness and respect to one another.
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:And being part of creating that
inclusive scientific community . And
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:remembering that life is short.
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:And precious.
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